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buyobuyoeffect:

stop reblogging the fucking “polarized thinking” comic. it’s not from a concerned citizen who was wrongly accused. it’s literally from purplekecleon the known abuser with so many fucking testimonies against them from people who aren’t even in the ballpark of being involved. they are using you all and manipulating people into thinking they’re the good guy and that pengo’s just some jealous nutjob, when in reality they’re trying to fucking take legal action against pengo and THREATENING TO DOXX THEM.

this critique of call out culture has clearly gone far too off track when literal abusers are trying to join in on it. we need to stop and reexamine this whole movement at this point, because it has become so easy to take the good that was being done and use it for pure fucking evil and manipulation.

i don’t care what you think about the comic’s point. i don’t care if you want to debate it or agree. do not fucking give it exposure because if you do you are giving a disgusting person the power to say “see, look at this! all THESE people agree you should forgive me and take down your post!”

hi you should probably check this out, including the linked doc, which fills in a lot more context, and points out that those “so many testimonies” are either not actually stories at all, or are people who had been dicks to pk first and got mad when she called them on it. http://lexyeevee.tumblr.com/post/116488039087/pengosolvent-versus-the-truth-a-rebuttal

if there is something actually abusive she has done, that has not been addressed, then i am all ears! and i will see that it is put right. otherwise it is very disconcerting to see someone so easily called “an abuser” without being able to cite a single instance of abuse.

also nobody ever threatened to doxx pengo and nobody has any interest in doing so.

my heart is racing and i feel nauseous

the worst part is knowing

very few people who reblog anything call her abusive will bother to reblog anything to the contrary. it’s just not juicy, and it would make them look bad.

so most of them will never have to face what they are doing to another human being, as they croon about how they are defending the innocent or whatever.

hardestcopy:

http://boxheadedteratophile.tumblr.com/post/99433088258/purplekecleon-is-incredibly-manipulative-and

Real  talk are you telling me someone orchestrated all  this just to make PK look bad.

Like you really expect me to believe all the screenshots, stories and stuff written here are all 100% false and that threatening to sue them for libel/whatever it was the moment it went down (from what I’ve seen/heard in  follow ups) was the correct response?

http://a-friend-of-theirs.tumblr.com/post/99465569120/purplekecleon-is-incredibly-manipulative-and

There’s pages and pages and PAGES of this shit.

Yeah people tend to be way too quick to make callout posts about shit but real talk there seems to be WAYYYY more to this story than ya’ll would like people to believe.

there is definitely more to this story than you’d like to believe. for example there’s all of this, including the linked doc: http://lexyeevee.tumblr.com/post/116488039087/pengosolvent-versus-the-truth-a-rebuttal

pengo only had partial logs, right? this has all of them. the parts he was missing and loads more. if you love screenshots and stories, you will love this.

i don’t know why he wrote what he did. but most of it did not go down like he says. and it’s painful to see yet another three thousand notes smearing pk, when i know no one will ever put so much effort into retracting any of it. hence the comic, i suppose.

what course of action would you have someone take when thousands of people are spreading harsh accusations about you that aren’t true? i still don’t know what anyone’s supposed to do in this situation. everything becomes more ammunition. what would you do, right now, if that post appeared and was calling you out?

nobody. nobody can explain. nobody can give even a single example. nobody bothers. “there was a post!” as if the mere existence of words means someone is the worst kind of human being; it doesn’t matter what the words say, who would absorb any of that, it’s just the fact that someone bothered to write words

just the most fleeting of impressions, enough to demonize a person, enough to stalk and harass their fans

absolutely dumbfounding

ponett:

yeah so that whole discussion about “callout culture” was fun for a while when people were discussing actual problems (people making public callouts over incredibly minor offenses, literal children being held to the same standards as grown-ass adults and as a result being afraid to make minor mistakes on tumblr, etc.) but now previously outed abusers and violent bigots are coming out of the woodwork to go “exactly, callout culture is bad, also i did nothing wrong” and people are reblogging them by the thousands and going “gee how insightful”

the great irony being that one of the problems with callout culture is that sometimes a big game of telephone leads people to being “outed” for things that didn’t actually happen

man i hope this isn’t subtumbling who i think it is

buttcheek2:

purplekecleon:

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I don’t feel comfortable supporting this comic 100%. While I do think people jump to quickly to demonize certain posts and users, I don’t trust this particular author, because they said their ex was absurd for suddenly deciding in retrospect that their relationship was abusive. It’s actually very common to not realize a relationship is abusive until a while after it’s over.

i don’t remember exactly when or where this was said, but have you considered she was saying it was absurd to decide that their relationship, specifically, was abusive

i read through pages upon pages of their conversations (and glanced over them again this week because of the resurgence of this crapstorm) and over and over, she would ask if everything was alright and he would reassure her. they both went out of their way to do things for each other.

i don’t know what of their interactions could possibly be construed as abusive on her part. i don’t. i still don’t. not a single person accusing her of abuse can actually give me an example.

They even said they “accidentally let abuse happen.” That doesn’t look good to me.

this sounds like it’s referring to mike? she is responsible for what the people on her team did, but it seems weird to blame her for being fooled by someone else

I’m not gonna be like this person is trash you’re a bad person for liking them, which I agree is p shitty esp because I don’t know the whole story, but, I don’t feel comfortable hearing their critique of call out culture when they have been accused of being an abuser and used abuse apologist/victim blaming language in their post.

here is the whole story

it seems to me that someone falsely accused of being an abuser is the perfect candidate for critiquing callout culture? who else would be so familiar with its issues

i don’t know what language you’re referring to but i’m sure she would be interested in specific feedback

it’s not popular to admit that sometimes people lie and sometimes mental illness affects recall, if those are the problem, but these are things that do happen occasionally and we need to be able to deal with them with a little more grace and nuance

turning into a straight up harassment campaign, over a bad breakup that happened in one weekend, based on a post that explicitly doesn’t call her abusive, which i guess nobody actually read

thanks tumblr

diavolofucker:

purplekecleon:

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lmao pk when are you going to stop making gigantic comics about how all allegations of abuse @ you are unjustified lies and own up that u done fucked up

nothing says “that callout post about me was nothing but lies!” like threatening legal action, writing a literal novel length rebuttal, and making multiple comics about how callout culture is bad and “u cant just label abusers for what they are, thats abuse”

this comic is also shit_that_didnt_happen.png

oh hey, like i was just saying. (emphasis mine.)

(i’m curious how you think innocent people should react when unjustly accused, if not “i’m being unjustly accused and here’s why” and “unjustly accusing people is bad”)

lexyeevee:

A complete, utter, absolute annihilation of Pengo’s accusations against PurpleKecleon.

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I realize this is a really really super duper long document (133 pages!) and not everyone wants to read it.

So I thought perhaps I would write a quick tl;dr of the highlights.

PK repeatedly asked Pengo if the workload was okay, and every time he said yes; he also went out of his way to offer more than once. She put out a call for more musicians to ease the load on him, and set up Bandcamp solely so he and the other composers could get some compensation for their time. In his callout, Pengo summarizes this as “pk ran me ragged” and “i ran the pmd-e bandcamp for pk”.

While sharing a hotel, Pengo asked PK to go microwave some food for him, but the lobby was locked for the night, so she could not. Upon her return, Pengo (who was drawing on PK’s livestream) made a comic depicting PK giving Pengo a gift and Pengo responding by punching her in the face.

Pengo’s callout heavily stresses that things were rough for his friend because her grandma had just died in a car accident. He condemns PK repeatedly for not seeming to care. The unredacted logs reveal that Pengo never actually informed PK of this, and in fact she still didn’t know until we found out from the callout post.

Pengo demonizes Naki for harassing a 16-year-old girl unprompted (“incredibly scary actions”); the actual story involves the girl deliberately splashing Naki while she was on the phone with her partner, trying to deal with a potential panic attack.

Pengo and his friend repeatedly took great liberties with PK’s generosity and actively interfered with her and her friend’s sales at AX. Pengo devotes a great deal of his callout to criticizing PK for not going to even greater lengths to improve his AX experience, after PK got Pengo and his friend free admission as “helpers”.

Pengo misremembered a story his friend had relayed, but was adamant that he hadn’t. This made it look to PK like his friend was actively trying to drive Pengo away from her. Once this was cleared up, they both apologized. In his callout, Pengo uses this incident as an example of friend policing and gaslighting.

Pengo’s primary argument for PK’s pattern of abuse is: a handful of tweets from our boyfriend’s ex, expressing concern that PK “may have” manipulated him. There is no explanation of what the manipulation is, or why the ex believed it was happening.

Pengo’s callout says PK got him to read an email from Mike, and suggests she lured him into laughing at Mike’s expense. This is his reason for not sending an apology to PK. Logs reveal that Pengo offered to read the email, and he was the first to crack jokes.

Pengo blames PK for not coming to him before the callout was written, but had seemingly had her blocked the entire time. The very last thing Pengo ever said to PK was:

[7/15/2013 9:21:24 PM] nagitokun the swaggiesolvent: yeah no i wasnt punishing you it was just my own bullshit getting in the way which doesnt really make it better but im sorry to have done that and to have also given the impression that something you were doing was wrong and somehow deserved punishment

There are also events where the callout confuses cause and effect, incidents where the callout gets roles completely backwards, and places where the callout describes something as having been angry or intimidating even though the actual logs show that the two of them talked it out and apologized. And some half a dozen paragraphs where the callout admits that Pengo didn’t actually tell PK that there was a problem. And the stuff that outright contradicts logs. And the one part where Pengo prides himself on not “dragging people through the mud publicly”, like PK does.

Details and logs for all of these things are in the document if you’re curious. It’s a pretty good read and it took a lot of work to compile!