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re: re: so i herd some things

Hi! I see you’ve used my compilation pic, and I’d just like to clear up on what I was going for when I made it. 

First off though, I’d actually like to thank you for at least addressing the topic in a more civilized manner, regardless of any disagreements we have in the end. Though in my honest opinion the majority of your rebuttal is a little on the weak side, I appreciate the fact that you didn’t cuss anyone out in the process.

lexyeevee

hi! let me fix that oversight right away: fuck you.

whoever you are, you are being nothing but snide and spiteful and antagonistic over this. you appear to have little interest in anything but fanning some flames here, and it is helpful to no one.

but, you know, moving on.

Consider the fact that it’s made very clear why the chat-logs used are blanked out.

that’s really fascinating but i think you’re confusing me for whoever actually pointed that out.

Consider the definition of gaslighting: “(wikipedia elided, again)” While you consider the definition of gaslighting, consider the fact that this is an actual thing that Marl, a person closely involved in the situation, actually said, and then tell me there isn’t something wrong with how that sounds.

i am not sure why this particular log is so contentious? anyone, saying anything to anyone else, is an attempt to manipulate — an attempt to plant a thought in someone else’s head. generally, our intentions are positive (convince someone to go to the dentist for a toothache) or neutral (convince someone that you just saw a really cool sunset).

Consider the fact that not once did the original post suggest anything about PK’s memory being faulty, only that the original poster felt extremely uncomfortable with the way that they were spoken to, enough so that they believed that it was evidence of gaslighting. They began to doubt their own memory because of what happened.

consider that if two people know they have divergent recollections of an event, when either one of them claims to be right, they must be claiming that the other is wrong. or lying, i suppose

Consider the fact that just because you have been abused, does not mean that you can not become an abuser.

again, that’s fascinating, but i was more taking interest in the general stance exemplified by the tl;dr at the top of the short post: “pk shows STRONG abusive tendencies including … ignoring that i had previously been abused”

Consider that some, even many of the people reblogging this post are not strangers to PK’s actions, and that’s why they have been leaving so many retags confirming this behavior. These are not all strangers, rather people who have laid witness to the behaviors of PK and suspected something off from the day it began.

they absolutely are strangers, which is why none of them have anything more to say than “i got a bad vibe”. what is a bad vibe? i don’t know, and neither do they. a good few of them outright said they didn’t pay attention to mel, or follow her, but would make extra point not to now.

look at your own choices of tags to quote. “i always hated her and now i have solid reasons to”. “i’ve never liked PK thank The Lord”. “I KNEW IT”. this doesn’t look like people with deep ties and stories to tell. it looks like people who were made uncomfortable and are delighted to have a straw to grasp now, to justify what they couldn’t defend before.

“who has the dedication to fake this”? really? i direct you to timecube. people can be passionate without being correct.

these are extremely flimsy grounds on which to base abuse allegations, yet you are strangely eager to push them. a more cynical person might even be suspicious.

Disrespect is an entirely different thing than “brash and passionate”. You can be “brash and passionate” and still not act like a complete child when presented with conflict. You can be “brash and passionate” without using terrible language and being rude to people.

and your final proof that mel is an abuser is that: … she uses naughty words. when people tell untruths about her, and post further gossip in the tag for her fictional universe, no less.

strangely, your own behavior — of posting that gossip in the tag, of making massively passive-aggressive remarks, of creating new twitter and tumblr accounts for the express purpose of perpetuating this — narrowly escapes your own judgment. curious. but you deign to call other people “children”.

(eta: and i see you are now lamenting that i used naughty words. why? this is one of the last bastions of someone who has no ground to stand on: paint the other party as rude for swearing, while you merely act snide and passive-aggressive without swearing, as though that’s somehow orders of magnitude more wholesome. extremely disingenuous of you.)

And if you’re offending someone with your actions, they at least deserve an apology, or an explanation behind those actions, rather than behavior like this.

i don’t think you’re in much position to be judging anyone’s behavior.