fuzzy post-it

unicoitus:

first of all, the “cookie analogy” regarding men is flawed in ways that are so blatant it’s absurd. the logic is nothing but, “a few in group X do bad things, so therefor group X is to be avoided and stigmatized as dangerous”

if that sounds like the exact same line of logic followed by the bigoted statements of racists against blacks when someone black commits violence, you’re exactly right (and even more flawed in this case since this involves a much bigger number, men being half the human population).

your math is totally bogus, here is why

people see that violent crime is committed disproportionately often by black people, and conclude that black people are more likely to be criminals. while technically true, people of any race still only have the most minute fraction of a chance of being criminals in the first place. but we are not well-equipped to deal with probabilities, and in particular we are really bad at conditional probability, so we get this all wrong.

meanwhile the mere threat of sexual assault is so pervasive that there are campaigns and advice all over the place aimed solely at women telling them how not to get raped. i don’t see a whole lot of posters telling white people how not to get stabbed by black people. but hey here’s a cosmo article and some RAINN resources and another magazine and this ridiculous handout and here’s another victim-blamey thing run by police and there are plenty more. these don’t exist to go “ha ha men are evil”; hell half of them are extremely patronizing to women. they come out of a place of genuine concern because this is a real problem.

how many women have been sexually assaulted? i don’t care to quibble over the exact number but it’s way more than a fraction of a percent. how much more frequent would it be if girls and women weren’t raised to check in with friends, be super-aware of their surroundings, etc.?

or, to put this another way: would you advise all women not to bother with any sort of rape prevention, since not all men are rapists? would you feel comfortable doing that, telling women not to do anything special that men wouldn’t do around other men? no checking in with a friend, no guarding your drink, no escape routes, no mace, no walking in pairs at night? would you?

none of this means men are evil, and i seriously doubt many women think they are. it means that there are quite a few evil people hiding among men, and there is no way to tell who they are.

hence the cookie analogy.

it’s flawed logic that makes no attempt to factor in that exceptions do not make the rule, along with confirmation bias, by exaggerating those exceptions and ignoring or downplaying the majority of non-violent individuals in that group

this is why someone came up with the cookie analogy

the cookies are not all poisoned

no one is calling them “poison cookies” because there’s one bad one

but why would you want to take the chance?

and why on earth would you get angry at people who didn’t want to try a cookie, or who proposed that maybe we shouldn’t poison our cookies?

second of all, Elliot was not a member of any MRA or MRM group. this is an outright lie tumblr perpetuated. he had some affiliation with a PUA (pick-up artist) group who are people not affiliated with MRA’s (despite what tumblr wants you to believe)

i suppose the problem is that it’s impossible to tell the difference

but you’re still wrong; he had some affiliation with an ex-PUA group. so you can’t tell the difference either. (please stop perpetuating lies ♥)

Elliot was a disturbed and mentally unwell person with some very dangerous complexes. was his motivation based on a sense of male entitlement? probably. but regardless, like the columbine shooting being blamed on a culture of violent music and video games, people are quick to blame everything but the individual themselves

people are quick to ask “how can we make this not happen again”. even the people blaming video games were still genuinely looking for an answer to that question.

maybe not fostering a culture of hatred and spite towards real actual women is a good step? like, who loses out if we do that, honestly

it takes a very unusual and exceptional set of circumstances to push a human being to commit such horrible acts, and it often has factors related to the individual themselves, such as severe mental illness, delusional mental states, and extreme viewpoints that the majority of people do not have. Elliot was far more a misanthrope than a misogynist from what I can gather, but regardless, he is not an excuse to start flipping out about all men being potential violent psychos

he only hated other men out of jealousy that they were with women. well also he was super racist, but from what i’ve read that again only came out in the form of rage that women would date “filthy blacks” and not him. frankly i don’t know how you can “gather” a damn thing at all and still be on the fence about whether he was a misogynist.

who is flipping out about all men’s being potential violent psychos? the problem is that some men are potential violent psychos, and we know this, but we are content to live in a culture where pushing the line is accepted and practically expected. we are basically grooming them.

more than three women are killed by their male romantic partners every day in the united states

mere hours after the UCSB shootings, a different guy in california shot eight times at three women for refusing to have sex with him and his friends (luckily missed every shot)

you seem to be under the impression that violence is a thing that comes in a quick burst, in the form of a shooting, and then there just isn’t any more until next year when we have another one. but no, it’s constant and everywhere.

his victims were 2 women and 4 men. I’ve heard claims that those men were killed accidently, another lie. the men were found to have been stabbed to death. tumblr has continuously ignored these 4 men or has claimed that it was 6-7 women who were killed, which is another outright lie, and has to be one of the more disgusting things I’ve seen in a long time. is your desire to perpetuate your ideological agenda so pathetically desperate that you would stoop to making the male victims completely invisible?

that’s how the story went around at first, before we knew what was going on. it’s a big game of telephone. it happens.

i stress that you got your own “correction” wrong in this very post so maybe refrain from the outlandish conclusions about others who made similar mistakes

given that his stated plan was to enter a sorority and slaughter everyone inside, this seems like a minor detail anyway

you want people to start taking social justice ideologies seriously? you could start by not outright lying and erasing victims for your own victim complex bullshit.

yeah lol why would women ever feel victimized when female soldiers are four times more likely to be sexually assaulted by their fellow soldiers than harmed on the battlefield

or when a not-uncommon response to these recent shootings was to blame women for not having slept with the guy, the exact reason he was so angry in the first place

or really any of these things

not all men are violent, but far too many men feel entitled to women. so please stop fucking apologizing for them; you’re just helping them blend in.