a while back i stumbled upon “dontneedfeminism” which had a lot of long posts of gripes about how hard men have it and links to back them up

i read a lot of the links (because hey wow this stuff is interesting) and mostly found a whole lot of serious twisting of statistics. i am pretty interested in math so this got me all fired up

i’m still seeing the originals get reblogged with comments like “heh and some people think we still need feminism” though so i’m shamelessly signal-boosting my responses

these cover a broad array of MRAish issues like custody battles and punishment for crime and education and so on

spoilers: almost all of the issues (or at least the linked research) boiled down to other factors, including gender stereotypes, racism, and classism. at least, the ones that weren’t outright fabricated. which sort of reinforces my suspicion that MRAs and anti-feminists don’t really care about solving or even examining these issues; they just collect them so they have something to flaunt at feminists. which is, you know, utterly repulsive.

links, with some choice quotes:

bad math, round 1:

…black men are penalized significantly more harshly than anyone else, whereas black women appear to be treated about the same as non-black women…

bad math, round 2:

…i’m also curious why there are almost twice as many homeless women with children as homeless men with children. does this mean about half of homeless families have both parents, and half have only a mother? where is the father?…

bad math, round 3:

feminists see things that are worse for women, and want to make them better for women. you see things that are worse for men, and apparently want to make them worse for women.

and a response to a response:

but distinct from issues that affect men just as much are issues that have different negative effects on men and women

for example, while women still win more custody battles, that also means most single parents (about 5 in 6) are single mothers.

bad math 4, from a disingenuous cretin named “logicd”:

interpreting statistics is tricky business; careful when making bold claims or you might come across as a bit silly

bad math 5:

are men not choosing to take far more dangerous jobs? they could be nurses and secretaries.

are men not choosing to commit more crimes, and ones that are more severe to boot?

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