sorry you guys have to deal with all this nonsense. as an aside to the thing on smarm, ive noticed that smarmy people seem to have this belief that behavior can be unhooked from identity. such as, "well, i know x did all this bad stuff, but hes actually a good guy on the inside, you just have to get to know him!" what a convenient life that must be. you get to act however you like but hey, its OK - its not who you "really are"! where who you "really are" = you around certain people, some times.
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yeah uh i don’t know what the hell “good guy” is supposed to mean
people by and large tend to act nicely towards the people they care about most of the time? wow here is your nobel prize in sociology
i am kind of in favor of describing people in terms of what they do rather than what role we imagine they play
also let us stop to consider the subtext of “but he’s a good guy really”, which i think can only go one of two ways really
take your pick