Inb4 Gamergate was never about misogyny or feminism. It was about getting some damn ethics into gaming journalism and the people against gamergate made it about feminism and misogyny. Seriously what’s so damn offensive about wanting there to actually be fair and unbiased reviews of games so that people don’t end up being duped into buying a game that’s honestly shit? Seriously Gamergate was about gaming to begin with, to get more ethics into gaming journalism and stop the rampant amount of corruption within gaming journalism, it just happens that when we called someone out for essentially bribing journalists into making good reviews for her game that it devolved into a shitstorm of her using the shield of feminism and misogyny to defend herself when she shouldn’t have been bribing people in the first place.
hi, i’m just curious, who did you call out for bribing what journalists into making what good reviews? can you link me to these reviews? i’d be very interested in seeing them
i hope they actually exist or you’d be actively reporting falsehoods many months after the fact, which would be the polar opposite of ethical journalism! but i’m sure that’s not the case
I apologize for this and I cannot find much else outside of the accusations made by Zoe Quinn’s boyfriend, although I do know a nice article that explains it without taking a side here: X , I apologize for being a bit too passionate at the time and saying these things without backing them up and in the future I will actually research this before making any claims.
Again I apologize and I hope everyone has a nice day.
EDIT: I would also like to point out that yes, I know this article has a lot of viewpoints that conflict with those of gamergate as well as says some things I don’t agree with, but it still stands that this is one of the few articles i’ve found where it does try to get all the facts in order and actually talk about what started all this instead of devolving into falsehoods and taking one side or the other.
i appreciate this but i would like to really drive this home:
gamergate is a movement that has claimed, the entire time, to be concerned with ethics in journalism
and yet you were spreading a falsehood about the very story that spawned the movement, five months later!
but this isn’t about blaming you
step back and consider carefully: why did you think there were positive reviews?
where did you hear that?
and if those reviews never existed: how did you go this entire time without ever knowing? until encountering me, someone who is opposed to gamergate? someone that gamergate would insist “hates ethics”, whatever that means
you aren’t the first person i’ve encountered to believe that there were reviews involved, and you surely won’t be the last. the early days of gamergate were predicated on spreading gossip around.
was it deliberate? who knows. i can tell you that i have seen gamergate spread falsehoods with orders of magnitude more enthusiasm than i have ever seen them attempt to spread retractions. if something is wrong it’s just quietly forgotten (at best); there is never any attempt to repair the damage.
is this really the movement you’re going to trust to push for ethical journalism? a movement that fed you a complete fabrication about its own origins and let you believe it for half a year, even though ten seconds of google would prove it wrong?
i noticed you replied to someone else who had the same question with this post:
That and then there’s Brianna Wu’s game revolution 60 which has received really really really suspiciously good reviews.
so you are suggesting that maybe another game developer is also bribing for game reviews, based on this hard-hitting evidence:
- you don’t like the game
- someone else did it too (which is false)
that’s it. that’s your entire train of thought. is this your gold standard for what unbiased ethical journalism should look like?
meanwhile, gaming has had known problems for years and years, and gamergate is conspicuously ignoring them in favor of picking on indie devs. where is the outcry over poor working conditions, extreme long hours towards release, vastly overinflated scores, being funded via ads by the very products you’re reviewing, tying employees’ bonuses to metacritic scores? certainly not coming from gamergate — they are too busy picking on the likes of zoe (not a journalist) and brianna (not a journalist) and randi (not a journalist).
what has this all accomplished? i guess they got intel to briefly pull ads from gamasutra over a single editorial. in other words they were trying to control the kinds of articles gaming websites published by influencing the advertisers. clearly that’s a great step on the way to unbiased and ethical journalism.
gamergate is an angry mob: convinced it’s justified in going to any extreme to get what it wants. but it doesn’t know what it wants, it only knows that it’s angry, so it’ll just keep hopping between targets. everyone else can either join, get out of the way, or get trampled. the only tangible influence it has had on the gaming ecosystem for me is to make twitter suck more.
sorry for this wordnado but, you know, perhaps consider hitching your cart to a different horse.